Good morning everyone. Recently I have been getting some responses on a few of my post concerning water baptism. Some people are saying it is not necessary for salvation.
For those who believe that water baptism isn’t necessary, please support your claim showing scriptures that supports this.
Do you know the purpose of water baptism according to the scripture?
I’ll show you in the scriptures that water baptism IS necessary for all our salvation according to the scripture.
I’m here to share the gospel & to teach salvation according to the scripture, I’m not here to argue God’s word.
Let’s have a civil conversation & please scriptures only & not your opinions
I bind up every demon in the name of the lord Jesus Christ that will try & fight against sharing the gospel.
I break every stronghold in the name of the lord Jesus Christ. Lord open up their mind & heart to the truth of your word. Give them ears to hear & let your will be done in the name of the lord Jesus Christ.
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When you see a Spirit filled group of people or congregation you will know. The Spirit filled people in Acts were very unique, or unlike, people who were merely religious.
Simple if you haven’t been baptised do it put your mind at rest focus on Jesus not earthly opinions mens understanding is flawed lean on God he has the answers opinions are just distractions that lead you down never ending rabbit holes which in my life… See more
Soteria= Strong word# 4991
1.deliverance, preservation, safety, salvation
deliverance from the molestation of enemies
in an ethical sense, that which concludes to the souls safety or salvation
of Messianic salvation
2.salvation as the present possession of all true Christians
3.future salvation, the sum of benefits and blessings which the Christians, redeemed from all earthly ills.
In the case of baptism and salvation, the Bible is clear that salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, not by works of any kind, including baptism (Ephesians 2:8-9).
“He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned” (Mark 16:16). This verse is composed of two basic statements. 1—He who believes and is baptized will be saved. 2—He who does not believe will be condemned.
Assuming that verse 16 is original to Mark, does it teach that baptism is required for salvation? The short answer is, no, it does not. In order to make it teach that baptism is required for salvation, one must go beyond what the verse actually says. What this verse does teach is that belief is necessary for salvation, which is consistent with the countless verses where only belief is mentioned (e.g., John 3:18; John 5:24; John 12:44; John 20:31; 1 John 5:13).
While this verse tells us something about believers who have been baptized (they are saved), it does not say anything about believers who have not been baptized. In order for this verse to teach that baptism is necessary for salvation, a third statement would be necessary, viz., “He who believes and is not baptized will be condemned” or “He who is not baptized will be condemned.” But, of course, neither of these statements is found in the verse.
Those who try to use Mark 16:16 to teach that baptism is necessary for salvation commit a common but serious mistake that is sometimes called the Negative Inference Fallacy. This is the rule to follow: “If a statement is true, we cannot assume that all opposites of that statement are also true." For example, the statement “a dog with brown spots is an animal” is true; however, the negative, “if a dog does not have brown spots, it is not an animal” is false. In the same way, “he who believes and is baptized will be saved” is true; however, the statement “he who believes but is not baptized will not be saved” is an unwarranted assumption. Yet this is exactly the assumption made by those who support baptismal regeneration.
Consider this example: “Whoever believes and lives in Kansas will be saved, but those that do not believe are condemned.” This statement is strictly true; Kansans who believe in Jesus will be saved. However, to say that only those believers who live in Kansas are saved is an illogical and false assumption. The statement does not say a believer must live in Kansas in order to go to heaven. Similarly, Mark 16:16 does not say a believer must be baptized. The verse states a fact about baptized believers (they will be saved), but it says exactly nothing about believers who have not been baptized. There may be believers who do not dwell in Kansas, yet they are still saved; and there may be believers who have not been baptized, yet they, too, are still saved.
The one specific condition required for salvation is stated in the second part of Mark 16:16: “Whoever does not believe will be condemned.” In essence, Jesus has given both the positive condition of belief (whoever believes will be saved) and the negative condition of unbelief (whoever does not believe will be condemned). Therefore, we can say with absolute certainty that belief is the requirement for salvation. More importantly, we see this condition restated positively and negatively throughout Scripture (John 3:16; John 3:18; John 3:36; John 5:24; John 6:53-54; John 8:24; Acts 16:31).
Jesus mentions a condition related to salvation (baptism) in Mark 16:16. But a related condition should not be confused with a requirement. For example, having a fever is related to being ill, but a fever is not required for illness to be present. Nowhere in the Bible do we find a statement such as “whoever is not baptized will be condemned.” Therefore, we cannot say that baptism is necessary for salvation based on Mark 16:16 or any other verse.
Does Mark 16:16 teach that baptism is necessary for salvation? No, it does not. It clearly establishes that belief is required for salvation, but it does not prove or disprove the idea of baptism being a requirement. How can we know, then, if one must be baptized in order to be saved? We must look to the full counsel of God’s Word. Here is a summary of the evidence:
1—The Bible is clear that we are saved by faith alone. Abraham was saved by faith, and we are saved by faith (Romans 4:1-25; Galatians 3:6-22).
2—Throughout the Bible, in every dispensation, people have been saved without being baptized. Every believer in the Old Testament (e.g., Abraham, Jacob, David, Solomon) was saved but not baptized. The thief on the cross was saved but not baptized. Cornelius was saved before he was baptized (Acts 10:44-46).
3—Baptism is a testimony of our faith and a public declaration that we believe in Jesus Christ. The Scriptures tell us that we have eternal life the moment we believe (John 5:24), and belief always comes before being baptized. Baptism does not save us any more than walking an aisle or saying a prayer saves us. We are saved when we believe.
4—The Bible never says that if one is not baptized then he is not saved.
5—If baptism were required for salvation, then no one could be saved without another party being present. Someone must be there to baptize a person before he can be saved. This effectively limits who can be saved and when he can be saved. The consequences of this doctrine, when carried to a logical conclusion, are devastating. For example, a soldier who believes on the battlefield but is killed before he can be baptized would go to hell.
6—Throughout the Bible we see that at the point of faith a believer possesses all the promises and blessings of salvation (John 1:12; 3:16; 5:24; 6:47; 20:31; Acts 10:43; 13:39; 16:31). When one believes, he has eternal life, does not come under judgment, and has passed from death into life (John 5:24)—all before he or she is baptized.
Is your faith in a physical act (being baptized) or in the finished work of Christ on the cross? Whom or what are you trusting for salvation? Is it the shadow (baptism) or the substance (Jesus Christ)? Our faith must rest in Christ alone. “We have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace”
(Ephesians 1:7).
Scripture must be read in context. When Jesus came to the Jews they were already a saved nation - God’s firstborn sons, and eternally saved. He was calling them to repent of their disobedience and harlotry with the nations. The ONLY place in Scripture that clearly answers the salvation question for Gentiles is the Phillipian Joaler - What must I do to be Saved? Paul answered - Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. Salvation (spirit salvation) which leads to eternal life is only by grace through faith - faith in the death and shed blood of Christ for the forgiveness of sins
Your answer is out of context. The Jews were already an eternally saved nation at Jesus first advent. Exodus 4:22. They had placed faith in the shed blood of the Passover Lambs year after year, and the Covenant of David ensured that they were to receive the earthly portion of the KIngdom - the Land covenanted to David. Jesu came offering them the KIngdom of the Heavenlies - rule from the Heavenly realm (The Heavens do Rule . Daniel 9) IF they would repent AS A NATION. Unfortunately the nation did not repent and instead crucified their Messiah. It is THIS same Kingdom - the KIngdom of the heavenlies - that is now on offer to eternally saved CHristians IF they will faithfully obey…Matthew 21:43 43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God (the heavens) shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. This new nation prophesied by Jesus is the Church, which has been called out of the world, like Israel to receive a heavenly inheritance, IF they prove faithful. Eternal salvation (spirit) is just the beginning. There follows the salvation of the soul and the body (at the Judgment Seat of CHrist) - 1 Peter 1:9 The goal of faith is the salvation of the soul (the inheritance in CHrists coming KIngdom) NOT eternal salvation, which we already possess.